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Hey there, and welcome back.

In this episode, we sit down with Nam — co-founder of Hyperlane, open-source purist, permissionless maxi, and a deep thinker on all things interop.

We talked about how Nam and the team built Hyperlane by thinking from first principles, taking inspiration from Kubernetes, not just in architecture, but in philosophy. The idea that everything should be open and permissionless is the foundation of Hyperlane. Every design decision flows from that one belief.

We also talked about how the team managed the pressure of an anticipated airdrop, what it takes to support 170 chains, and how devs are starting to treat interop more like tooling than infra.

From scaling at speed to building permissionless infra that manages billions in transfer volumes — this one’s grounded, honest, and full of insights.